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UncleMuscles



Joined: 09 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh, baby, I like it rawww...
Yeah baby, I like it RAWWW!!!
Ooh, baby, I like it raww...
Yeah baby, I like it RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW@!!!
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UncleMuscles



Joined: 09 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you were banned after the fact because I happened to be afk when this occurred. When I got back minutes later and saw that this was an issue, I checked the chat and read the comments made by the two of you.


I'm pretty sure devil was just mad about me n burgers callin him a stinkey poops
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Tada



Joined: 17 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we remove this from forum please?
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soL1s



Joined: 07 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This idiot and his bud were also spamming crap all nite till they were banned. His posts should give u a sense of his game persona, and by that I mean an annoying spammy lil boy that we don't need on our servers. His take on racist comments are self evident, .... 'nuff said.
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MegaStorm



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tada wrote:
Can we remove this from forum please?

Well, trying to understand his gibberish:

UncleMuscles wrote:
weee i liek buts mane when doo i get unbant

(Translation: Weee! I like, but, man, when do I get unbanned?)

It appeared that att had not actually removed his ban yet, so I was just waiting for att to officially respond. (He can't respond to a locked or deleted thread.)
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Sos_your_face



Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Location: S. Florida

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, is that what it says? I thought it was "I like butts" something something.
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AvroArrow



Joined: 09 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleMuscles wrote:
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You don't have to direct comments like that at someone specific for it to be racist.


Erm... I'm pretty sure you do. And I'm not racist just because I said nigger. If you aren't directing that word at anyone then no one should take offense. And if att takes racism so seriously, how come devil didn't get banned? He called me a cracker among things after we said that. The only difference was he was directing them towards us. It's not like we dragged it out like he did. Wink Wink Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes Wink Razz Confused [/i]


No. There are certain words that have negative connotations regardless of how they're said, or to who. Thus, they are offensive to people even though they are not necessarily directed at them. This is one such case.
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AvroArrow



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sos_your_face wrote:
Ok, first of all, a word or phrase doesn't have to be directed at a target to be racist in nature. If you want to keep thinking you can run around calling your friends ni**ers and no one will ever take offense to it, you just keep thinking that all the way to the hospital after you say it in earshot of the wrong person.

Secondly, you don't have to be a member of the group in question to take offense at racism.

Third, it's time you came out of your bubble where you think everything should be equal. Did you miss the last 500 years of American history? Black people are allowed to take offense at things that we aren't. There's a lot about the social system that's in place that's unfair. Wishing it was fair doesn't make it so. Frankly, I'd have a laugh if you called me whitey or cracker.

To sum it up: I don't care if you're a good person. I don't care if you accept other races as equal. However, there are rules in place here, not to mention just plain common decency (not too common though). Respect the rules or you will be punished. In the case of racism there is ZERO tolerance.

To answer your last actual point: You were banned after the fact because att was afk when you said it. Didn't matter if you'd stopped. Banning was the punishment.


Personally, I dislike any comment including ones like that. Although it doesn't have any specific negative connotation, there's an inherent differentiation, as if, in this case, whites (aka crackers) are on a different level than the person making the comment. More specifically, the underlying differentiation is condescending. It doesn't carry the same weight as certain other racial comments (like the one in question in this ban), but I dislike them just the same.

<that's a little off topic though>
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MegaStorm



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AvroArrow wrote:
<that's a little off topic though>

That's okay. It can't be stressed enough that racism will not be tolerated here. And after all the commentary in this thread regarding that fact, only the most clueless will fail to grasp that simple concept. *glares at UncleMuscles*

Well, with no further input from att, I'll assume the ban has been lifted as he said he had already done and lock this thread now.
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